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Little Big Adventure HQ => LBA 2 => Topic started by: Joullele9 on June 17, 2009, 04:27:53 pm



Title: Car Bug
Post by: Joullele9 on June 17, 2009, 04:27:53 pm
The car on desert island doesn't steer :( it's uncontrollable, I have to stop and go backward to turn.
Any ways to fix this bug ???


Title: Re: Car bug
Post by: earnolmartin on June 18, 2009, 05:31:29 am
The bug is fixed in our custom release.   ;D


Title: Re: Car bug
Post by: maks_pl on July 12, 2009, 04:28:28 am
I would like to refresh this topic. I've downloaded the installation file just yesterday. I'm sorry but if the installation file has this problem fixed, then it doesn't work ... for me. I have the same problem, I can steer only left and right when going on reverse.

I've done some searching of the internet for this issue and found a solution that contain two files. dinput.dll file and mss32.dll. Checked the readme file, done everything as instructed. The thing is, that after installation i didn't have a file named dinput.dll in the LBA2 directory at all.

Also I was trying to install this version under dosbox. But here, the installation doesn't work. During the installation the system cannot find some files on the CD, and eve if I will copy the missing files and correctly mounting the CDROM drive, LBA still cannot find the CDROM and do not run under DOSbox at all. The carbug is the only one that I have. No problems till now.

Any suggestions  ???

I'm trying it on my laptop, Windows XP SP2, DX9.0c, integrated Intel graphic card.

PS. I found the dinput.dll file in the "system32" folder. But when searchin on the internet for this file it is written that it is supposed to be in "system" folder. Strange ...


Title: Re: Car bug
Post by: earnolmartin on July 12, 2009, 07:42:55 am
maks_pl,

There is no reason why you should be running LBA 2 under DosBox.  Run it under Windows 95, 98, 2000, or XP.  Sounds to me like your installation may be corrupted.  Can you please download and reinstall LBA 2 under windows?  In order for the car to work perfectly, you must COMPLETELY remove any installation of LBA 2 from your computer before installing our version.  DINPUT.DLL patch doesn't work either, and that's why it's not available on our site.

Let me know if that helps, as it should work.  I've tested it time after time.   :)


Title: Re: Car bug
Post by: maks_pl on July 13, 2009, 02:45:21 am
I didn't have LBA2 installed on the computer earlyer. The windows installation is also quite fresh.  I downloaded the installation file again, uninstalled everything, deleted all the file's. cleaned up the registry.

After that I burned the CD again, installed it from it and everything was looking good. After getting to the same spot (Zoe brings the car to the desert island), it still have steering problem. The strangest thing, is that the car is steering without any problems when going backwards. Maybe there is a file that can be edited, where I can modify the steering angel of the car?

Beside the car steering everything works like a train toilette.


Title: Re: Car bug
Post by: earnolmartin on July 13, 2009, 04:18:49 am
I didn't have LBA2 installed on the computer earlyer. The windows installation is also quite fresh.  I downloaded the installation file again, uninstalled everything, deleted all the file's. cleaned up the registry.

After that I burned the CD again, installed it from it and everything was looking good. After getting to the same spot (Zoe brings the car to the desert island), it still have steering problem. The strangest thing, is that the car is steering without any problems when going backwards. Maybe there is a file that can be edited, where I can modify the steering angel of the car?

Beside the car steering everything works like a train toilette.

What operating system are you using?  All of your files in the LBA 2 directory need to be set to READ ONLY except a few files and folders which I cannot remember off the top of my head.  The installer kept these properties on the files, which is why it should work. 

Let me know.


Title: Re: Car bug
Post by: maks_pl on July 13, 2009, 05:47:55 am
Win XP SP2. But I think I know where did I go wrong. I didn't know that the files MUST be set to read only ... If this is correct, so changing the files back to read only should repair the problem. If not .. another reinstall will be on the way but LBA2 is installing like lightning so that will not be a problem.

I'll try that when I will be at home and will post information if it helped or not.  ;)


Title: Re: Car bug
Post by: earnolmartin on July 13, 2009, 06:12:30 am
Win XP SP2. But I think I know where did I go wrong. I didn't know that the files MUST be set to read only ... If this is correct, so changing the files back to read only should repair the problem. If not .. another reinstall will be on the way but LBA2 is installing like lightning so that will not be a problem.

I'll try that when I will be at home and will post information if it helped or not.  ;)

Did you change them from being read only?  They should be already set to read only.  There are some that must NOT be set to read only though. 

Yes, please keep me updated.  I will check the installation as well when I get back home from vacation. 


Title: Re: Car bug
Post by: maks_pl on July 14, 2009, 03:11:29 pm
Ok, I've done it again. Installed everything from the beginning, didn't change any file. Started a new game. Came to this spot as quickly as possible.

I'm sorry to say but it still do the same thing. I'll try to install it tomorrow after work on my PC. I don't have a fresh windows installation there, but it never failed me so I hope that maybe then everything will work fine.

So to make it strait:

laptop with win XP pro - cannot steer the car.
PC with XP pro - will test shortly.

I'll keep You updated and let You know.


Title: Re: Car bug
Post by: earnolmartin on July 15, 2009, 03:49:55 am
Ok, I've done it again. Installed everything from the beginning, didn't change any file. Started a new game. Came to this spot as quickly as possible.

I'm sorry to say but it still do the same thing. I'll try to install it tomorrow after work on my PC. I don't have a fresh windows installation there, but it never failed me so I hope that maybe then everything will work fine.

So to make it strait:

laptop with win XP pro - cannot steer the car.
PC with XP pro - will test shortly.

I'll keep You updated and let You know.

Yeah try it on your other computer.  I never had any problems on every computer of mine, not to say that a problem doesn't exist.  I will also test it again when I get home. 


Title: Re: Car bug
Post by: maks_pl on July 17, 2009, 07:14:43 am
Strange. There is no such problem on the PC, but on laptop the problem is still the same. Oh well, I guess I will have to use the big box :). I think this subject can be closed. I'll try more researching and playing with the car bug problem on laptop on my own.

Thank You for all the help :)


Title: Re: Car bug
Post by: earnolmartin on July 17, 2009, 02:42:25 pm
Strange. There is no such problem on the PC, but on laptop the problem is still the same. Oh well, I guess I will have to use the big box :). I think this subject can be closed. I'll try more researching and playing with the car bug problem on laptop on my own.

Thank You for all the help :)

Yeah, it's really weird.  If you don't use our version off the bat, the car doesn't seem to work ever, unless you reformat.  The problem hasn't really been tracked down, but our version has it fixed with read only attributes to prevent the corruption of the car in the first place.  It's bizarre to say the least.

Thanks for helping us test it though! ;)

If anyone else needs help on this matter, please post here!



Title: Re: Car Bug
Post by: Klemz on September 16, 2009, 03:08:55 pm
I got the same problem, even with the custom lbahq installation the car won't steer. what's worse is that I have the same problem as the guy from the other topic (problems under vista), I just can't reach the pearl of incandescence. In some areas, the game won't let me in for some reason, I try to enter some room, the room flashes and I appear outside again. Also in some cases, twinsen will appear weirdly positioned when entering a room, i.e. when entering the spaceport boarding area in otringal he would appear in a platform above the door, I were able to walk to the top of the tickets guiche.

I'm running the game in win XP on a laptop computer. In fact, I'm beggining to suspect this is the problem, as both the guy in this topic and the other one were experiencing this in laptop computers. Unfortunately, I don't have a desktop computer anymore, so I can't try it out. Also unfortunately, I can't find my original CD so I'm using the "no CD" patch, and can't get it working with dosbox...  :(


Title: Re: Car Bug
Post by: earnolmartin on September 17, 2009, 10:47:40 am
I believe the car bug is only seen on computers when traces of an older version are present.  If you've never had LBA 2 installed on your computer after reformatting it and reinstalling all your drivers, the car should work.  I tested it on all my computers, and it worked perfectly.

I wouldn't recommend reformatting though.... remove all traces of previous versions and only use LBAHQ's.


Title: Re: Car Bug
Post by: Klemz on September 17, 2009, 09:54:05 pm
How do I do this, then? Just uninstalling isn't enough, if I uninstall, then search for "lba2" and "twinsen" and delete all related entries in my registry, then it would work? I have to do this, THEN install lbahq's version, right?


Title: Re: Car Bug
Post by: Klemz on September 17, 2009, 10:29:46 pm
): I just did that, now after reinstalling LBAHQ's version, the game simply quits to the desktop when I try to run it..


Title: Re: Car Bug
Post by: earnolmartin on September 17, 2009, 11:40:58 pm
How do I do this, then? Just uninstalling isn't enough, if I uninstall, then search for "lba2" and "twinsen" and delete all related entries in my registry, then it would work? I have to do this, THEN install lbahq's version, right?

Sounds like a good idea.  Every trace must be removed.


Title: Re: Car Bug
Post by: earnolmartin on September 17, 2009, 11:41:38 pm
): I just did that, now after reinstalling LBAHQ's version, the game simply quits to the desktop when I try to run it..

Doesn't sound right.  This version has been tested and works.  What operating system are you using? 


Title: Re: Car Bug
Post by: Klemz on September 19, 2009, 01:11:24 am
All right, I tried cleaning everything up again and reinstalled the game, now it works, but unfortunately the car bug/ entering area bug still remains. I'm using a latitude D531 dell laptop computer running original updated windows XP, all drivers up to date, everything fine as much as I know.

At first I thought it might be the keyboard, so I tried plugging an USB keyboard and nothing changed. I'm about to give up, coming to the point where I'll ask someone to get my saved game file, grab that damn pearl of incandescence, get out, save and send me back!


Title: Re: Car Bug
Post by: Klemz on September 20, 2009, 03:46:39 pm
Ok, I just got the chance to test and the problem is definitely because of the laptop computer. I'm running the game on a desktop PC running the same windows version and it is just fine. I don't have any idea why is that, though... ):


Title: Re: Car Bug
Post by: earnolmartin on September 20, 2009, 05:01:43 pm
Ok, I just got the chance to test and the problem is definitely because of the laptop computer. I'm running the game on a desktop PC running the same windows version and it is just fine. I don't have any idea why is that, though... ):


A new version has been released:

http://forums.videogames101.net/index.php?topic=64.0

Should hopefully address a couple of your issues.  Please also read this updated thread:

http://forums.videogames101.net/index.php?topic=101.0


Title: Re: Car Bug
Post by: Klemz on September 20, 2009, 09:01:43 pm
Great, I'll get it and try it this week! Thank you!  :D


Title: Re: Car Bug
Post by: earnolmartin on September 20, 2009, 10:05:01 pm
Great, I'll get it and try it this week! Thank you!  :D

Yeah, we're getting the last bit of it uploaded.   :D


Title: Re: Car Bug
Post by: maks_pl on September 23, 2009, 09:00:18 am
Hi everyone,

I see the topic is still active. Sorry for not posting anything lately regarding the car steering issue on the laptop, but I was making preparations for my wedding and all so I didn't have much time to play with computer for last couple of months.

I researched the problem more closely. Installed everything on the laptop form the beginning (formatting HDD, installing windows and so on). The problem is solved BUT ONLY under certain conditions.

In my case (don't know if it will work for other ppl), the problem was the additional laptop software that I was installing after the windows first config process (laptop functions control centre, power management and so on). Probably Your laptops also have such software installed, it may change the configuration of the windows vital files, that are related to the car steering (had similar problem with the FREELANCER game, but there was a sound issue there. Till today I can't figure out how was that related to the laptop software)

After installing the additional laptop software, the car didn't steer, just like it was at the first time.

IMHO, I don't think that the previously installed version of LBA is the problem. Keep in mind that after first install of LBA2 on my laptop, it didn't work, and I am 100% sure, that I didn't installed it earlier.

Hope this will give You a clue on how to solve Your problems with LBA2  :)


Title: Re: Car Bug
Post by: youngwind on November 04, 2009, 06:06:56 am
Same thing  :( I've downloaded the newest version of LBA 2, where the car bug should be fixed, but it doesn't work. The car doesn't want to turn left or right while driving forward, but I have no problem with this while driving backwards...   


Title: Re: Car Bug
Post by: earnolmartin on November 05, 2009, 11:50:38 am
Same thing  :( I've downloaded the newest version of LBA 2, where the car bug should be fixed, but it doesn't work. The car doesn't want to turn left or right while driving forward, but I have no problem with this while driving backwards...   

Read maks post.


Title: Re: Car Bug
Post by: Gettysburg_xD on March 05, 2010, 07:35:13 pm
I too have the car problem :( it won't steer correctly. Also when twinsen enters some buildings/caves/etc, it comes back outside just like that... the thing is i am not in a laptop and from what i saw from mark post is only appliable to laptops...


Title: Re: Car Bug
Post by: Gettysburg_xD on March 05, 2010, 08:21:06 pm
I searched the net for a patch, but it only made it worse, i reversed the patch but it still has some issues in steering. Namely to the right. I remember that when i had the game and was younger the car was faster and was more mobile (plus, more fun) I can get the school of magic item i think, but the problem of the car is still there


Title: Re: Car Bug
Post by: earnolmartin on March 07, 2010, 12:33:32 pm
It has something to do with your drivers.  It's worked on all of my machines.  Never have had issues with the car, but some have reported that certain laptop support utilities interfere with the car.  Strange as it might be. 

Build your own computers and you won't have these problems.


Title: Re: Car Bug
Post by: Elite on August 11, 2010, 08:08:01 pm
I just installed the game and the car bug happens on both of my computers. I'm running Win 7 and if your gonna blame it on drivers, I built one of the computers myself. Any ideas? I've tried doing the online fix where you replace a .dll file and another one but that didn't work.


Title: Re: Car Bug
Post by: earnolmartin on August 15, 2010, 04:25:46 pm
Are most of the files within your LBA 2 directory set to ReadOnly?  I'm not sure if the attributes copy over to Windows 7.  Going to try it now on Windows 7 x64 since a lot of people seem to be having problems with LBA 2 on it.  I've tested LBA 1 on Windows 7 x64, but not LBA 2.

I'll be posting within an hour with my results. 


Title: Re: Car Bug
Post by: earnolmartin on August 15, 2010, 05:48:47 pm
I just tried it with Windows 7 x64.  Immediately after installing the game, I launched it and played until I got the car and used it before quitting the game.  The car worked fine, but it only works the first time the game is launched.  Once you exit and relaunch it, you will most likely encounter the issue.

I then ran the game again, and I did encounter the steering problem. Weird, I need to test this on XP again, as I did not have any problems with the car multiple times.

I will look into this.

Thanks for pointing this out.  I will see what it does on my XP machine.




Title: Re: Car Bug
Post by: earnolmartin on August 15, 2010, 08:31:34 pm
I've read that the car works perfectly when the game is run under DosBox using the DINPUT.DLL. 

This has motivated me to create a new release coming soon. 

The new release will setup everything to be run through DosBox while still giving users the option to run LBA 1 and 2 in Windows.  It will configure DosBox for you as well so that everytime you launch DosBox, it will run :).